Game of Thrones Game of Thrones Episode 8 Episode 6 Serious Q&A – The Iron Thrones

Nono Nono viết:

I really think D&D didn't finish the story. I think Tyrion's arc is to kill Bran. Note also that Brienne has a raven sigil, which looks like the Night King's sigil under his neck, which was a raven skull with what seemed like a triangle on its forehead (three-eyed raven).

Q'whyatt viết:

Poor Preston was so out of it he titled the video "Episode 8 Episode 6" and he was so traumatized by this season that he hasn't fixed it. Poor Preston! Thanks for the newest Dany and Brienne vids! It makes me so happy that you still have a passion for this series. Stay strong!!

MathShinobi viết:

Hot Take: Bran the 9000 is sending Jon to the Watch KNOWING he will defect to North of the wall, because Bran the 9000 wants to keep Jon (who has a claim to the throne) far away from it.

And I don't mean this as Bran is trying keep Jon away from temptation as a kindness. I mean this in a dark ending way where Bran (bloodraven) is trying keep all the power to himself. He will get rid of other rivals if they crop as well.

Matt_91 viết:

Master of war is practically obsolete, since that's basically the job of the "Wardens " of the four winds, so I guess decentralized but more like the Unified Combatant Commands of the US. But I guess the writers kinda forgot.

ryler05 viết:

Lol I don't think he understands the prequels have been redeemed

SerbAtheist viết:

1) Bran could pardon Jon. However, the Unsullied would never allow him to leave without being punished. He'd remain at best their lifelong prisoner. Grey Worm leaves, but there are still areas, most notably Dorne and the Iron Islands, sympathetic to Grey Worm's outlook on Jon. Bran going back on his word would not have been a good look for a new king and would have immediately destabilised the realm. I think that's more of a factor than the Dothraki who have not been known to care much about their leaders once they get killed, especially if they got killed in a 'stupid' way. The fact Dany made them all bloodriders is largely irrelevant. That thing itself goes against Dothraki traditions and the last episode implies a gradual changing of Dothraki cultural norms, with them casually strolling along the KL harbor, i.e. becoming adapted to city life, at the end.

2) New titles and positions often have a tendency to be grandfathered in. And as you yourself say, having a Master of War is a natural progression towards a more modern concept of statehood. Even a sh*thead like Joffrey was astute enough to suggest creating armed forces loyal only to the crown. The entire ending of the show in many ways signals the beginning of the end of the feudalistic system.

3) The only way Bran 'orchestrated' these wars was by falling off the tower. The tensions between the different factions was bubbling for ages and all needed to trigger it was a crisis of succession. Apart from 'puppetmaster Bran', very much not in the spirit of GoT, there are alternative interpretations of 'Why do you think I came all this way?'.

First, an attempt at humor, showing there is still a bit of old Bran left in the 'three-eyed raven'. Second, if you look at Bran as the stand in for the audience, assuming 'kinship' is a metaphorical act. Like Bran, the reader now knows all of GoT's stories and can now use these stories to 'manage one's realm', i.e. live one's life to the fullest. The quip 'Why do you think I came all this way?' is a symbolic message that all works of art are fundamentally meant to be edifying. We consume art not just for entertainment, but to actually learn deeper truths about us and the world around us. This is why every single reader 'came all this way' to the end of the story.

4) D&D absolutely nailed GRRM's message, which is fundamentally one of reason, of pacifism, or doing one's duty, of incremental change, and of criticising the most stale fantasy tropes that glorify absolutist power (Dany being very much a symbol of these tropes). In fact, the vast amount of fan outrage comes from D&Ds REFUSAL to stray from GRRM's themes and give the show a Hollywood ending. As for 'punishments', Arya's is never fitting in for the rest of her life, having still a long way to go to fully regain her humanity as evidenced by her impulse to make a violent threat against Yara, however effective it may have been, and Tyrion's punishment is of course putting in the extremely long and arduous work of repairing a broken realm. The show very much subtly criticises nationalism as well, for example one of 'good guy Ned's' key bannermen is a guy sporting the flag of a flayed man and openly boasting about it. Still, the story is very realistic about both the time-frame of getting rid of nationalism and the fundamental impulse and need to protect those close to us. One cannot really say that ideologies that went out of their way to defy and deny this impulse have had a great track record. Sansa achieved ruling of the North by frikkin' securing their independence without a drop of blood spilled, something neither Robb nor Jon ever came close to. There is no reason the North wouldn't treat her as a hero, in addition to her being the oldest Stark still eligible to ruling Winterfell.

As for D&D's treatment of religion, given the condensed time, it was done rather well. The Sparrows are appropriately menacing and the burning of Shireen is one of the most harrowing moments of the series. I also don't agree with the choice of giving Melissandre redemption, but it was appropriately done. She snaps out of her zealotry and is acutely aware that she has to pay what she did to Shireen with her life. Her death was a good symbolic scene.

5) The show was absolutely brilliant. It will be talked about for ages. I think the final two episodes are absolutely the best television in human history. The biggest reason for slightly wonky characterisation is actually the fault of GRRM. His fourth and fifth book are a marked drop in quality and focus, with the crisp and focused plot of the first three books becoming increasingly meandering. It would be a challenge for anyone to adapt this to the big screen and largely D&Ds choices are an improvement to what happened in Crows and Dragons (Jon sending a 90 year old Maester Aemon on an arduous sea voyage? Sansa playing Robin's babysitter in the Vale? Brienne's endless wondering? Jaime settling disputes in Riverrun? Cersei trying to frame Margaery for adultery? A drunken Tyrion never even meeting Dany and having to tow Penny along whilst making 'Where do whores go' his catchphrase? An even longer and more convoluted Dorne plot with just one substantial payoff… Quentyn getting roasted by the dragons?). There were bound to be some wonky moments, but by and large the overall vision has been translated well given the rather rambling source material.

FULANODETAL viết:

u a good spinoff,,,5000 dothrakis chasing jon snow in the pvp zone called beyond the wall..like in apocalypto…

Sergei B viết:

Wow Preston, really? have you watched any M. Night Shyamalan movies lately?

The Visit was a fairly good movie, Split was great.

Then again, you said no good movie in 18 years, so you clearly thought 2002's Signs was bad. It was not.

The Village was also really good. I waited 14 years to see it. Removed from the misleading marketing, the story is quite captivating. It was never a horror movie, it was a romance all along.

And Lady in the Water gets shat on a lot, but is quite an enjoyable movie.

The Happening was hot garbage. I've heard takes it was meant as a parody, which would be redeeming, but I don't think is true.

JCResDoc94 ʕ•ᴥ•ʔߛ ̋ l Verified l V l viết:

you can be too close to something to see. also, there is a whole generation of film makers who grew up in a time before computing power. today, after a long wkend on afx & i can make a decent lightsaber, adequate fire, teleportation – spectacle w/o structure is no longer enough. but that was not the case for dnd or james cameron. & for all they know: that is still true. they think that is what star wars and avengers are. & it is also why there are 9 avatars in pre production. they do not understand that the times for being wowed by a ship sinking & breaking or blue people on an imax being enough are WELL past.

but as you highlight – no one was NOT going to watch season 8. enough people WILL go to star wars. by the time they realize, it wont matter.& if they were artists, story tellers, they wouldnt be making this mistake in the first place.

Ekshmon viết:

But of course they'll be cheering – They're filmed to a documentary, and this is their job. It's hard to believe that someone who gets paid because D&D think they deserve this will say "This is pure shit"

Jon Vogel viết:

Q&A: What is more work for you to do.
Research, write, and produce one of your video series?
Or
Doing episode reviews for the past 3 seasons?

Niko Toscani viết:

Unserious q&a – with Emelia Clarke and Pedro Pascal both being tapped for Star Wars do you think Dave and Dan will Tap Lino Facioli (sweet robin) to play Ezra Bridger in their Star Wars trilogy?